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James-31


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Posted: Feb 22, 2005 3:35 p.m. - Subject: Religion-Islam

I think that most muslims (but not all of em) are corrupt in one way or another

I think this because:

1. In school when we talk about terrorism, 9/11, the war, etc. the middleeastern kids laugh it off as a joke
2. their religion teaches hate.

What do u think?


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Posted: Feb 22, 2005 4:09 p.m. - Subject:

there religion was started witha war. it was quickly spred by war. most of everything about islam is based on war and killing people (then they preach about how they should be nice to other muslims).

there whole religion is bad for the world


James-31


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Posted: Feb 22, 2005 4:26 p.m. - Subject:

i agree


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Posted: Feb 22, 2005 6:11 p.m. - Subject:

I think religion in general is bad for the world, but that’s just me.


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Posted: Feb 23, 2005 12:23 p.m. - Subject:

your so stupid. the towers were (world trade center) towers. keyword "world".

muslims spred their religion with war from the very beginning. the guy that started islam was the leader of a revolutionist army. (well don’t hold me to that because it’s been a while since we learned about islam; but we spent a long time on it in school). ever heard of "jihad"? it is a part of their religion, a special section of there religion is devoted to calling every muslim together to start war. only some of the muslims (extremists) are the ones causing trouble; but the rest of them condone and like what they are doing.

you are sick of the US?
let me ask you some questions
--so you sick of the way we give money to poor countries when they need help?

--so your sick of how we try to resolve problems between other countries while they are killing each other and raping each others wives?

--so you are sick of how we are in the process of dismantling the two main centers for terrorism support(Iraq & afganistan)?


sure the US makes some mistakes. but the truth is that our intentions are good. we are a powerful country and like spending time and money to help others. but the only time you hear about us is when something goes wrong.

--what has your country done to help out somebody else lately?

no good deed goes unpunished


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Posted: Feb 23, 2005 5:23 p.m. - Subject:

the weapons of mass destruction means nothing really because there is alot more that will be done for the world than if we had just rid one country of weapons. we are trying to rid the entire world of terrorists; and that is a better cause.

but the truth is that we found many known terrorist in Iraq. and more are coming in all of the time. all of the known terrorist organizations are coming out of hiding and standing up to fight for there main supporters.

of course there are more terrorist actvities now. but terrorist doings all together in history -- compared to-- the past 3 years. the latest attacks don’t even compare to what has happened in the past.

the terrorists fucked up because they messed with the wrong president. Bush is on the offencive now. no more standing around waiting for the terms of terrorists to attack without warning. we are determained to hunt down and fight terrorists where they live and breed. as long as terorists are being killled then Bush is doing a good job.

or maybe you would just like for the terrorists to hide out and plan some more bigger attacks on the world.

bush is trying to clean up the world and make it better for everybody. and we catch shit from asshole like you. in 50 years when everything is better your kids will read in their history books about how George Bush started the strategy of how to rid the world of underground terrorist organizations.


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Posted: Feb 23, 2005 5:45 p.m. - Subject:

Whoa... i just voted ofr Grunter. Your president doing good for the world? That war was good? *cough*OIL!!!*cough* Ahem, sorry. The religion of Islam is based on peace, with apathy at it’s very core. Again, it’s only the extremists. What about Christian extremists, like Moose (sorry) and the KKK? And you say that Islam is about war? What about Christianity, with the Crusades and trying to "convert" the muslims by trying to crush them? What about our modern wars? The priests were the first ones to side with Hitler. And all of Bush’s policies just ooze with American Jihad.


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Posted: Feb 23, 2005 5:58 p.m. - Subject:

your so cynical. beleive it or not but this country has good intentions. call out oil theif or not, but the war on terror will stop the terrorists and it will be appreciated in the future.

well cristions have cleaned up the act since the 1800’s.

american jihad? give me a fucking break. we always spend our pocket money to help out other countries. face it- the terrorists had it comeing to them. it’s time that the tyrant terrorist supporting dictators and the terrorists be run out of this world. ! This world is better off without terrorists; you can’t argue with that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(like i asked before)
what has your country done to help the world?


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Posted: Feb 23, 2005 9:57 p.m. - Subject:

you did a very bad job arguing your side of this debate. if you wanna find some more meaningless statments to point out faults you can always resort to words that are spelled wrong.

over all-- me and moose cleaned up this debate dealing with the big picture (the main point).

well at least me and moose agree on something. your not such a retarded asshole after all moose:D


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Posted: Feb 24, 2005 12:12 p.m. - Subject:

i have alot more respect for you grunter. and your right about the grammer thing LOL; i didn’t fix that sentance purposely just for that reason (you have bad grammer statment)

but to telll you the truth. christians are a big reason why the world is fucked up. they caused alot shit to happen back in the day and when we look back on it now; alot of people loose respect for christians. they did start alot of the tension between european countries that can be noticed today.

the point is- we are trying to remove church from government as much as we can and churches are cleaning up their act. muslims on the other hand...... (well i can’t argue their bible very far because i have never read it, i have only learned a few details about how their religion formed) and then you hear more shit on the news about jihad and that other shit.


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Posted: Feb 25, 2005 1:33 p.m. - Subject:

I guess ur right that christianity does play a part but...u dont see the pope releasing videos while he’s on the run saying:"we are gonna kill all you and rape your women"...well something like that



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Posted: Feb 25, 2005 1:59 p.m. - Subject:

Only a tiny fraction of all muslims are evil and proud, they hated 9/11 it turned the world against them.



Posted: Feb 25, 2005 2:12 p.m. - Subject:

I’ve been to Dubiy and out of the millions of muslims there ,there were no teroists ,the only moraly wrong rule there they havent grown out of is that being gay is a sin (which niether is christans.)


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Posted: Feb 25, 2005 3:17 p.m. - Subject:

You say america has helped out a lot. But did you know that Canada provides almost as much support monetarily and even more in manpower (not in controlling countries, but in genuinely helping, like tsunami relief and cleaning up after the Americans). Even so, we have a much smaller economy, and a smaller population! Does this make sense? the world sees Canada as peacekeepers (or at the very least, polite), but what does the world see the Americans as? I think you ca ndraw your own conclusions, negative or not.


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Posted: Feb 25, 2005 6:35 p.m. - Subject:

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the only moraly wrong rule there they havent grown out of is that being gay is a sin (which niether is christans.)


Being gay IS a sin. Being gay IS morally wrong. How can you say that "being gay is a sin" is a morally wrong rule, when being gay is morally wrong in itself?



Posted: Feb 26, 2005 4:41 a.m. - Subject:

Yes it is a sin, but I don’t care live and let live.



Posted: Feb 28, 2005 4:09 p.m. - Subject:

I don’t think that anyone here (I haven’t read all the posts) really does grasp what the Islam religion really stands for, and I’m disapointed in some of you for not being more open minded. Not that I’m Islam or anything, but still.


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Posted: Feb 28, 2005 7:11 p.m. - Subject:

that doesn’t mean much at all to me. in fact; that could mean about 10 different things
   
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